Don’t Know Where to Stand on the Israel-Gaza Issue? A Helpful Flowchart

by / Tuesday, 22 July 2014 / Published in Current Events, Multimedia

54 Responses to “Don’t Know Where to Stand on the Israel-Gaza Issue? A Helpful Flowchart”

  1. Mahmud says : Reply

    Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

    I really believe we need a team of anti-Hasbara to spend hours every day going site to site and spreading this around.

  2. Daniel Haqiqatjou says : Reply

    Wa alaikumussalam wrwb, It’s funny because I posted this on various social media and immediately got blasted by dozens of angry comments, within seconds. They have a very organized hasbara machine, but their days of propaganda are numbered as public opinion turns against their manifest crimes.

    • Hyde says : Reply

      God be praised, your blog is excellent. And this…needs to spread out. Zionist propaganda is strong but we mustn’t falter.

  3. Jillian says : Reply

    Assalaam alaikum Br. Dan,

    I am sorry you were “blasted” on social media, it is never right to treat people in a way we would not like to be treated.

    I understand that you want support of the #freepalestine movement. You have used a unique format and humor to motivate people to denounce the Israeli occupation of Palestine.

    From the perspective of the readers, the facts you’ve included are not complete and leave out important context, which explains (but does not excuse) their behavior.

    I am not pro-Israel but unfortunately I personally cannot support #freepalestine because the citizens elected a terrible government. Hamas targets cities and civilians in Israel and Israeli occupation and daily murders are a human rights violation, but Hamas is so wrong. They are hiding in homes, masjids, school, beaches, and soccer fields to launch records. They are stealing and murdering at night. Yes, what is happen to the people there is so atrocious. InshaAllah there is a long enough cease fire for the citizens of Palestine (including Gaza) rise up against Hamas.

    • siti says : Reply

      seriously??? U sound like a pro israel to me

    • Daniel Haqiqatjou says : Reply

      Wa alaikumussalam Sister Jillian,

      Of course, I did not attempt to provide context to explain Israel’s systematic brutality against an occupied population. Do you want to provide context to explain why Israel feels justified in blowing up hospitals, schools, kids on the beach? What’s your point?

      Furthermore, as the chart and historical facts make clear, Gaza is a people under continuous siege, living in an open air prison, locked in by Israeli occupiers. If Hamas is culpable for wrong doing, Israel is doubly and triply culpable for forcing Palestinians into such a situation. And the world has to hold Israel accountable for these crimes as a brutal occupying force.

      Save your tired talking points for other forums.

    • Daniel Haqiqatjou says : Reply

      Here I’ll give you context for Israel’s siege of Gaza and expanding settlements. They want to claim the Palestinian territory for themselves. Zionists believe in a Manifest Destiny like American colonizers did two hundred years ago. And like America wiped out the Native Americans and systematically stole their land, zionist want to wipe out Palestinians, either by killing them or by sending them to Jordan or Lebanon as refugees. Just listen to what a majority of Knesset members say openly, in public. This is not a secret or a conspiracy.

      There’s your context. So tell me again how evil Hamas is.

      • Jill says : Reply

        The person who shares my name above was only trying to be non biased. Now I get the message loud and clear that you and most people here are pro Palestine. I think wrong actions have been taken on both sides of this issue. Now I might as well throw out there that I am a Christian, and not ashamed of it, because the rest of my response will be based off of my world view. The increasing violence in the Middle East, especially centering around Israel should be expected. Not only is it the center of the three largest religions in the world, but the Bible states that Israel and God’s people will be increasingly persecuted…

        • Daniel Haqiqatjou says : Reply

          Yeah, the Palestinians are really persecuting God’s “chosen people” right now. First the Palestinians stole most of Israel’s land and continue to do so today by bulldozing their homes and massacring entire villages. Then the Palestinians placed Israel under a soul crushing economic blockade, effectively starving them to death and preventing humanitarian aid to reach the poor Israeli children. They’ve raised apartheid walls preventing Israelis from being able to travel or even leave small areas of land, basically making Israelis second class citizens with no rights and no future. Then, to put a cherry on top of all that persecution, the Palestinians have been using advancing weaponry, including F-16s, precision guided missiles, and even chemical weapons to mercilessly bomb those poor, suffering Israelis, killing nearly 800 of them in the most recent episode. Thank you, Jill, for speaking truth to power. When will the world sympathize with God’s chosen people? When will the world save Israel?

          • TruthtoPower says :

            How many Palestinians in Gaza have died of starvation? I want to spread the word but it confounds those hasbara trolls if I can have a number or any details.
            Shukran.

            Also, Jillian doesn’t sound pro-Israel. She just doesn’t. She’s sounds anti-everybody.

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      • Hyde says : Reply

        I have been pasting this everywhere. What is your opinion ?
        http://johnmearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/PalestineFuture.pdf

      • Stardusty Psyche says : Reply

        False dichotomy.
        Likud is wrong. Their basis is Yahweh, Moses, and Joshua.
        Hamas is wrong. Their basis is Allah and Muhammad.

        Likud was founded on the principle that all land between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River will be sovereign to Israel.
        https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Politics/LikudPlat1977.html

        Hamas was founded on the principles of killing every Jew, making all the land between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River Palestine, and hoping to die in battle for Allah.
        http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

        Brother Daniel, as an American citizen I can say you are absolutely correct in your characterization of the genocidal conquest of the indigenous peoples of North America by the United States. I hope you would not seriously suggest I and all others of non-native ethnicity leave our country. If so, then just about everybody in the world would have to move out by that notion.

        We can’t undo the history of all or even many conquests. The world’s borders have mostly stabilized. Israel is and will always be a nation, unless they are wiped out with nuclear weapons, biological weapons, or some form of WMD. Even then, they have a sea based nuclear strike capability and the backing of the world’s most powerful military, so even after a regional nuclear war Israel would still probably exist as a nation.

        The best things that could happen would be to vote out Hamas and Likud, then Palestine and Israel could recognize each other and make peace, as Egypt and Jordan have done.

        If the people of Palestine do not get rid of Hamas and recognize Israel soon Likud will do exactly as you say, push all the Palestinian people out to other countries or into Bantustan prison camps.

        The Jews of Likud have refined their techniques over 3400 years. They no longer kill every living thing in one fast genocidal invasion. Instead, they are killing the land of Palestine by a thousand cuts. A road here, an orchard there, another hilltop settlement, some more archeological sites… When the Bantustan inmates rise up the Likud Jews use minimal force to beat them back.

        The Jews consider such minimal use of force, while they have the military means to wipe out the whole population, to be an extremely humane application of self restraint, which, compared to Hamas’s goal of killing every Jew, it is.

    • Hyde says : Reply

      Madame first Hamas was an Israeli creation to counter the PLO and second of all, all the West clamoring about democracy and free and election fall on deaf ears when someone is elected that they don’t want!

  4. misu says : Reply

    If you are pro Israeli don’t waste your time we have enough Zios already, go sleep do something else, nothing is ok if the Israeli police kill civilians, specially KID’S……..they have to look back in history, and never forget holocaust. They are doing same, no same more brutally and dirty. God pardon them. But I don’t think so.

  5. james says : Reply

    People never learn. What Hitler did to the Jews, they now do to the Palestinians. Unfortunately the Palestinians had no hand in their suffering yet the world has condemned them to brutality.
    Let us make love not hate………..

  6. fatima says : Reply

    Thank you for this , however The printable PDF is not working

  7. Dan says : Reply

    Comparing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to the Holocaust is like comparing apples to oranges. The Nazis systematically killed the Jews in an effort to effectively cleanse the world of jews. In this conflict, Israel is fighting against Hamas, a militant government classified as a terrorist organization. Israel’s intent is not to ethnically cleanse the world of Palestinians, they want to stop Hamas. Unfortunately, a ton of innocent Palestinian civilians have been killed in this conflict and, while it’s totally inexcusable, there just isn’t a parallel between this conflict and the Holocaust. Saying so undermines the deaths of, not just the 6 million jews, but the millions of catholics, gypsys, and handicapped that Hitler targeted as well.

    • Dhriti says : Reply

      I cannot agree with you more.

    • Marge says : Reply

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  8. John says : Reply

    Keep telling yourself that while you bomb schools.

  9. Stardusty Psyche says : Reply

    Sorry, brother Daniel, but I did not find your flowchart to be at all helpful. I could write a detailed article about its many inaccuracies, but, just to begin, the people of Gaza have elected Hamas, Hamas is a death cult that was founded on racist, homicidal, and suicidal principles. To find out what Hamas was founded on read their founding document, their Covenant (Charter).
    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

    It says the following, explicitly and in plain language:

    Hamas strives to kill every Jew wherever they may hide.
    Hamas does not and will never recognize Israel as a nation.
    Hamas is strictly Islamic and their fight is for them inherently religious.
    Hamas will never negotiate peace. Only fighting and killing Jews is acceptable.
    Hamas is a death culture, a Kamikaze cult that glorifies suicidal Jihad.

    I suggest you revise your chart accordingly.

    • guest says : Reply

      Tis cute when indoctrinated apes like to chant dogmatic statements almost like a mantra (ironic considering you appear to be irreligious ).

  10. Stardusty Psyche says : Reply

    “Article Eight:

    Allah is its target, the Prophet is its model, the Koran its constitution: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.”
    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

    Hamas was founded as a theocratic death cult. Their charter goes on and on about killing Jews, fighting, and the glory of death in battle for Allah.

    Israel is stealing land in what they call Judea and Samaria, fundamentally because Jewish doctrine says Yahweh chose them among all people and gave them instructions to take that land in perpetuity by wiping out its indigenous inhabitants, now known as Palestinians.

    Facts, my dear and beloved Muslim and Jewish friends…let’s start with facts…

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